Six weeks for a build? Lots of greed for old hard parts to find I surmise.

In this situation its not about taking sides as I'm just stating facts and asked for an opinion.

The signature is there to warn others as the poll suggested to reveal him and if you think less of me thats okay.

In any case the last e-mail conversation with Gibbs he said:

"Thanks for letting me know what you want and I'll call when its finished."

I never happened.

I'm sure there would have been more missing if I would have waited any longer.

Simply said he had me from the start.

Stupid on my part to send bits 300 miles away to keep track on.

When I do business in Portugal , Australia or the UK. parties never an issue even on trading.

Honor system still applies and not here with Gibbs....

A "reasonable person" would have to take Steve's side on this one  (and no secret, I don't always agree with Steve!!).... Sorry Scott!   And after stating that it's a bad idea to "reveal", you put a rather foolish "signature" that lowers your esteem, and for me drives home the case of you "blaming" others for self-generated woes!

Can't help yourself can you? 

Would you like to tell us how much of your first 1071 engine you lost storing it someplace it was not wanted? 

Are you still calling that person out on line? 

Where did you drop your parts off? 

Do you have a written inventory of the parts we exchanged on the side of the road? 

Who would expect a floor pan stored for 6 years on an engine build? 

Did you select parts that were not yours from my shop to make things right? 

How many years did you take to not select a camshaft?

You claim you lost rare 1071 parts, 1071s never had Hardy Spicer drives so you are all upset about two wing nuts?

I have a email telling me to deal with the floor pan as my own. Maybe the year you needed a new heating system or the year your kid needed a dirt bike? 

I'm living rent free in your head, get a life. Steve (CTR)

Anyone bought a floor pan or other parts or had differential done by CTR? My parts were his inventory. :(

If anyone thinks building a rare car with missing parts takes a year sorry it doesn't happen that way. I have fairly large bit of money in this car and when setbacks happen it really hurts. It was not a storage container it was money wasted and parts used elsewhere that are replaceable so it's not all gone . I rairly post mostly because that's just me.

All I asked for is a opinion and nothing more 'the best to all that has helped.'

On our forum, threads are free to meander from the initial topic. This one moved into a very legitimate issue for many businesses. We all have overhead, and a big chunk of that is the cost of the space required to perform our work and serve our clients. Regardless of the specific circumstances of this situation, it is not reasonable to expect open ended free storage of jobs. If you rent a storage unit and stop paying for it, guess what, your stuff is sold in short order, and you signed the agreement authorizing the business to do just that! Often a very sad situation... I was recently talking to someone looking to recover the contents of unit containing a lifelong Mini collection after the owner passed away, and his offspring flaked on making the rent! Two months, and the whole collection was snapped up for pennies by one of those guys that make a living on Craig's list....

Read through the thread again troll...... your answer is there

End of thread I hope and I vote #5 Sorry but I could never ever expose him these days :( In my book a spade is a spade and convinced as hard as you try you cannot friend anyone you meet. Sad days.

I believe it Bill!! Some of these folks ought to watch some of these car resto 'reality shows' and notice that when you drop off that 66 Chevelle, you also drop about $80K to "get started" on the restoration!

I wonder if stating CLEARLY on the estimate or whatever that the customer has to SIGN, something like "Jobs or parts abandoned for 30 (or 300 or whatever!) days will be SOLD to recover storage, handling, or disposal costs" would suffice as justification for ending what is essentially open-ended free storage of clutter while the owner is in Kuwait/prison/Alaska etc.

jemal.. here in NC.  you must  hold for 15 days and then file a MVR 260 ( mechanic lien ) also within 15 more days.... and then file  MVR 262.. pay $10..( right to sell) and then you will get MVR 264 right to sell from DMV.. and then you go to courthouse  . pay the $120 and then you can do private or public sell 30 business days later..    this goes for parts Or CARS..  I just back from courthouse.. doing one today..   on split window VW bus...  I have had to this more than I like of late.....  folks start  frame off resto and run out of money real QUICK..  later  bc

Well, I never knew the forum has a "nanny" to filter out "dirty" words! I'm not sure why it thinks 'Richard' Dasturdly and Mutley cartoons fall into that unsavory group! Remember the two versions? One was an around the world car race where Mutley was obsessed with getting a medal, and one was "Catch that Pigeon" where D*** and Mutley are chasing a messenger pigeon in open cockpit aeroplanes.....

When I wrote my comments. I did not know who was involved. I know a bit more now, and it is more convoluted of course. But notice how it says on the bottom of posted 'invoices', "Not responsible for cars left over 30 days after completion of service". It's not much of a stretch to say that "Parts abandoned for years on end will be sold to recover time and expense of handling them".... Again, I do not know the circumstances here, but any of you that own businesses would have to agree there must be a time limit to how long you'll hold onto someone's unclaimed property. If it's a pair of boots at a shoe repair, probably go in the trash (I did this with girlfriend's boots! Still reminded of it!). If it's a recognizable Cooper S block, other folks are drooling on it, and at some point it's 'available'. That is not an unreasonable eventuality.

Reading the invoice you've posted, I'm pleasantly surprised at the detail on it - most engine builders just write something like "Refurb engine - $1500" and leave it at that.
Knowing the time involved in sorting out boxes of crap and picking out the useable bits, and then the time and faff involved in a proper engine build, you've actually done alright on this part of your experience.  Had I only seen this post, I'd assume you were promoting the services of the fellow.

So, where did it all go wrong ?

Why did it take six years ?

Did you hand over everything personally or get stuff sent direct ?

I thought of you Spitz and was going to post your "wet cooper" comment but didn't think it would help. 

 

Jamal so when phone calls aren't allowed and turn into hangups and e-mails get thinned without replies one tends to worry. Yes this went on for quite awhile but wouldn't a responsible guy secure someones property rather that convert it to inventory? I feel bad for him presently but glad he manned up. What he did was spot perfect but for what I paid for he didn't complete and as for the missing parts he was given every opportunity to find replace or whatever. The second to the last time we spoke I said just send me what you can. Lastly send me $500 and I'll go away. Need I say more. He's a good mini mechanic undoubtably but has a bedside manner that is hardly a businessman. Even he himself told me his wife said he can piss off 1000 people without opening his mouth. For those that need to know I'm 58 years young. On the bright side closure is key and my short block is complete in short order after waiting 6 years. I had to pay twice to get it this far and soon buy some gearbox bits.

A very good man in Netherland sent me some hard missing bits for free. "Take it for what its worth good or bad thats life."

Nuff said Scott

And as Scott said in his very first post, the guy used his pieces of collectible parts from his very rare 1071 mini and also his some other purchased parts to complete other client's mini being built at that time in his shop. that's my understanding., i mean really it's too much. i remember in my high school days, if you are a naughty student you get warning from the principal and gets punished once in a while, BUT if one gets involved in stealing money or things from classmates or school property etc, he gets expelled from the school. The reason why you get almost 80% wanting to expose the guys name is because human in nature is a gossiper, it's not a bad thing,but it's just a natural thing that sometimes we just laugh about,that's why we are all fascinated about what's happening in the showbusiness.

The other party has already responded.  I'm sure there is more to the story from his side.  Would be nice to hear

Outing is the best policy I think.

My parts were stolen a few years ago...out'd him, took to court, won.....getting your money is another thing.

Given every chance to tell his side....unfortunately he had no defense....just a scum bag

Scott, please tell us your story, and name the guy, and after you name him, we will give him 3 days to respond and give him the chance to tell us his side of the story to be fair? and Scott,how old are you? and how old you think this "crook" is? did you deal DIRECT to this "crook"(as you term it) or did you just leave the parts to his house without him knowing it? and just gave him a note on a sheet of paper to fix it? did you see this guy in person? we need some circumstancial evidence and a paper trail to come up with a verdict. These are just a normal questions from a person like me who doesnt know what really happened, not accusing anyone,but just inquiring, in aid of legislation.

This is a very slippery slope! We simply cannot make a determination with only one side of the story. There is no point at all in posting a gripe (other than just to gripe!) without considering the full circumstances. Lets look hypothetically at a possible situation... I take a bunch of "rare" parts to D*** Dasturdly Mini Werks, starting on my rebuild. They I transfer to Kuwait for 5 years, go to prison for a year and a half, hide out from my x-wife for 3 years, and go fishing in Alaska for a couple more. Then I show up and go talk to Dasturdly Junior about my rare parts that I delivered to his Grandpa all those years ago! I get annoyed because Junior doesn't know me from Jack, and has no idea what I'm talking about. I then go on the forums and tell everyone what a slimy thief that D*** Dasturdly was! Obviously, he must have sold all my rare parts or used them himself. I want to "warn" everyone to "save" them from from what "happened" to me!

Now, how many remember D*** Dasturdly and Mutley?

Really?? for $1500?? File a case in small claims ct. Here a small claims case is $35 and service is $25. Maybe you have to drive 300 miles to sue in virginia if that is even where he is at but you don't need an attorney.  Let someone with authority sort it out.  Costs and expenses can be recouped in ct. And IF you win you can tell your story here.

And I voted for reveal him.